Är finnar ett kinesfolk?
Postat: 2020-04-03 16:40:46
Kinesfolk? Nu finns det dem som säkert kommer att känna sig kränkta.
En träffpunkt för alla - om Asperger syndrom
http://www.aspergerforum.se/
http://www.aspergerforum.se/ar-finnar-ett-asiatiskt-folk-t56530-48.html
Between 1870 and 1929 an estimated 350,000 Finnish immigrants arrived in the United States, many of them settling in an area that would be come to known as the “Sauna Belt,” a region of especially high population density of Finnish Americans encompassing the northern counties of Wisconsin, the northwestern counties of Minnesota, and the central and northern counties of the Upper Peninsula of Michigan (Loukinen, 1996).
The primary reason Finnish immigrants chose to immigrate to the US was for the job opportunities available in the mines prevalent in the Great Lakes area. Many of these Finnish immigrants were young, uneducated, unskilled men who had grown up on small rural farms but did not own land themselves (Heikkilä & Uschanov, 2004).
By Finnish rural tradition, the eldest son inherits the family farm. As the family plot of land is generally only large enough to support one family unit; splitting the land among siblings just was not an option.
The Finns were wholly unprepared for the work that awaited them in the iron and copper mines. Many had come from rural farming families and were inexperienced laborers.
Some immigrants report being ordered to begin work the same day that they arrived in Michigan from Finland. In the mines, most of the Finns worked as “trammers,” the equivalent of a human pack mule, responsible for filling and operating wagons with the broken ore. Miners were horrendously overworked and were subjected to extremely dangerous working conditions in an era where labor laws either didn’t properly exist or were largely unenforced.
With such a high proportion of Finnish Americans in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, it is no wonder that even today Finnish culture is so intricately intertwined with the UP.
The word “Yooper” means several things to the people of Michigan. For one, a Yooper is a colloquial name for someone the Upper Peninsula (derived the acronym “UP”). Yooper is also a linguistic dialect found in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan that is heavily influenced by Finnish due to the masses of Finnish immigrants who settled in Copper Country.
In the UP of Michigan it is also possible to order a “Yooper” from Little Caesar's Pizza, which comes with pepperoni, sausage, and mushrooms. Another signature UP dish is the pasty, a meat turnover that kept the miners satisfied through a hard day’s work in the mine.
Armas Kustaa Ensio Holmio, "History of the Finns in Michigan", p. 17. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitio ... _AmericansShe had barely reached the front porch when the friend's mother realized that her daughter's playmate was a Finn. Helmi was turned away immediately, and the daughter of the house was forbidden to associate with "that Mongolian". John Wargelin, a pastor of the Evangelical Lutheran Church and a former president of Suomi College, also tells how, when he was a child in Crystal Falls some years earlier, he and his friends were ridiculed and stoned on their way to school. "Because of our strange language," he says, "we were considered an alien race who had no right to settle in this country."
On January 4, 1908, a trial was held in Minnesota about whether John Svan and several other Finnish immigrants would become naturalized United States citizens or not, as the process only was for "whites" and "blacks" in general, and district prosecutor John Sweet was of the opinion that Finnish immigrants were Mongols. The judge, William A. Cant, later concluded that the Finnish people may have been Mongolian from the beginning, but that the climate they lived in for a long time, and historical Finnish immigration and assimilation of Germanic tribes (Teutons)—which he considered modern "pure Finns" indistinguishable from—had made the Finnish population one of the whitest people in Europe. If the Finns had Mongol ancestry, it was distant and diluted. John Svan and the others were made naturalized U.S. citizens, and from that day on, the law forbade treating Finnish immigrants and Americans of Finnish descent as not white.
Zirre skrev:Kinesfolk? Nu finns det dem som säkert kommer att känna sig kränkta.
http://www.historymuseumeot.com/mfahs/h ... 8_0026.htmJohn Sven was born in Finland and calls himself a Finn. He now petitions the Court to be admitted a citizen of the United States. The granting of this petition is opposed by the Government on the ground that being a Finn he is a Mongolian and not a "White-person" within the meaning of Sec.2169. United States Sev.Stat., which provides that "The provisions of this title shall apply to aliens being free white persons and to aliens of African nativity and to, persons of African descent."
The chief physical characteristics of the Mongolians pre as follows: They are short of stature, with little hair on the body or face; they have yellow-brown skins, black eyes, black hair, short flat noses, and oblique eyes.. In actual experience we sometimes, though rarely, see natives of Finland whose eyes are slightly oblique. We sometimes see them with sparse beards and sometimes with flat noses; but Finns with a yellow or brown or yellow brown skin or with black eyes or black hair would be an unusual sight. They are almost universally of light skin, blue or gray eyes, and light hair. No people of foreign birth applying in this section of the country' for the full rights of citizenship arc lighter skinned than those born in Finland. In stature they are quite up, to the average.
The applicant is without doubt a white person within the true intent and meaning of such law.
The objections, therefore, in my opinion should be over-ruled, and it will be so ordered.
W.A.Cant,Judge. Jan.17.1908.
Odal_ skrev:Jag känner mig i egenskap av same ättling jättekränkt av den här tråden.
Jag kräver att alla som har skrivit i den går ner på knä och ber om förlåtelse.
LordNelson skrev:Odal_ skrev:Jag känner mig i egenskap av same ättling jättekränkt av den här tråden.
Jag kräver att alla som har skrivit i den går ner på knä och ber om förlåtelse.
Samer måste vara ett av världens mest lättkränkta folkslag.
Odal_ skrev:För Övrigt det så kallade mongolvecket är en anpassning till kyla så snarare har väl kineser och japaner utvandrat från sibirien till de områden där de bor nu.
slackern skrev:Odal_ skrev:För Övrigt det så kallade mongolvecket är en anpassning till kyla så snarare har väl kineser och japaner utvandrat från sibirien till de områden där de bor nu.
Sibirien ligger väl till största delen i Asien?
Kahlokatt skrev:Jag är stolt tornedalsättling!
Huggorm skrev:Förmodligen samiskt påbrå, om man skall gissa.
Ja, för tusentals år sedan ja. De språken är nog inte mer släkt än svenska och rumänska.slackern skrev:Huggorm skrev:Förmodligen samiskt påbrå, om man skall gissa.
Finskan och samiskan kommer ju från samma språkstam så nog finns det allt ett släktskap mellan folken.
Huggorm skrev:Förmodligen samiskt påbrå, om man skall gissa.
Alien skrev:Just det här med finnarnas ev mongoliska ursprung tycks vara en känslig fråga.